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So there was a zine that I only read part-of before returning to Papercut Zine Library about DIY organizing for people of all ages and incomes from Positive Force DC. There was a list in the back about the internet. The points about uneven internet access can be a barrier to participation if your group does a lot of organizing online, stand. Except the list also claimed you don't have community online, just a space you maneuver in and that you don't really make friends online. Makes me wonder what the creators of the zine would think about alt.gothic's Convergence and how a chunk of my closer friends were already friends online before I met them offline.

Of course I'm also thinking about about that 2.5 page zine on race, punk, and anarchism that encouraged us to organize by neighborhoods. I'm wondering how urban and not in the middle-of-bumfuck all these people are/have been.

Date: 2012-05-30 09:58 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] arkivarie.livejournal.com
Yeah, I ended up moving to Sweden on account of my boyfriend who I met online. I guess some people just don't "get it."

Date: 2012-05-30 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tenshikurai9.livejournal.com
How long did that last after moving?

Definitely a lack of understanding that not everyone is like them. At least my ex doesn't doubt that I've made friends online, even though it's something he can't do.

While we're at it, if I hadn't found the zine, the only way I would have learned about Positive Force DC would have been online. So I'm under any points they had about being able to disseminate information online. Except I'm not going to remember that wording exactly since the assumption of, you can't make friends online, was just too distracting.

Date: 2012-05-30 07:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] arkivarie.livejournal.com
We are still living together more than a decade later although things have fizzled out. I can't support myself financially here because Swedes don't hire us foreigners unless they are desperate so I am pretty much stuck with my partner. He in turn is emotionally dependent on me since he doesn't want to be an grown-up and take responsibility. That's the main reason things have gone from sizzle to fizzle between us.

Date: 2012-06-01 12:26 am (UTC)
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Except the list also claimed you don't have community online

Maybe it depends on your definition of "community". But I remember detouring into the wilds of New Jersey to get to a house party of a couple of dozen people, of whom I'd met only one or two, but about many I knew some incredibly intimate details of their lives.

What with the automobile, and now the internet, people hang with people who they share interests with. Toffler's Future Shock talked about this phenomenon, back when it was new. He features amateur rodeo riders, who form a freakish cult of their own, most of them from the very sparse parts of the US.

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